You know what? I hope it gets an AO rating and I hope it sells like fricking hotcakes. Heck, put true nude skins on Xbox Live Marketplace in an Adults-Only section, and let people pay for the dirty bits just like they do in other media.
As I believe I said back when BMX XXX was the whipping boy for nudity in games, someone's got to break down the barriers. If it's DoAX2, then so be it. Better games will come along when we're past this ridiculous immature, nearly puritanical, stage. Once you've got your own copy of Playboy magazine, gotten a little more perspective, you can take nudity and sex as a natural part of life. Once you get older, possibly married or into a stable relationship, the taboo diminishes. Compared to what one can find in movies or literature, games are positively stunted sexually.
So, yes, I'm in favor of sexual -- or sexy -- content in games. Will I buy Dead or Alive Xtreme 2? No, not my cup of tea (and I'm not an Xbox customer), but games like that and BMX XXX and Rumble Roses XX are filling a need. If they can serve a larger purpose and they make it easier for serious games to be more natural, then let's have at it.
For the record, neither do I have anything against intelligent sexy content.
But the DoAX games, the most accurate term for them is: teh suck. This is not going to be a good game. And even if it has excellent play, it'd have to be much better than average to overcome the sleazy feeling any male will get from playing it.
I think the only thing that will will bring erotic content to the mainstream will be a wealth of other things to recommend the game, not a lack of them.
Full nudity in a DOA game seems unlikely, mostly because Itagaki considers the girls "his daughters" and has pursued "nude patch" creators of his previous games with legal action.
This, of course, doesn't stop him from putting them in outfits that might as well have them nude. He is, after all, one weird dude.
On top of this, I've always gotten the impression that Microsoft isn't really interested in AO games, for fear of sullying their reputation.
His daughters? Now that's funny. When you have a look at the guy, it's no wonder they turned out to be such skanks.
But him saying they're his daughters? That's pure BS. They're properties to be exploited -- or Xploited, as the case may be.
Oh, I hear ya. The man is clearly a total wacko. By "daughters", he really means "CG women only I can exploit".
My belief is that DOAX2 will not get a M rating, no matter how racy the outfits end up. I also agree that it will not be a good game. Sadly, I also believe it will probably sell reasonably well.
We're (USA) not mature enough to come to terms with sexuality in our films; what makes games any different?
Sure there's porn, but you won't find porn running in you're regular multiplex. I expect that the same to hold true for games.
It's actually one of my big amazements with games today. How it is with the advent of online distribution and given the pron industry's knack for technology how someone hasn't made a XXX game that doesn't suck and sell it for $10 a pop online.
Even most mainstream games which try to push up the sex value seem to find ways to just suck in completely non sexual ways. Certain MMOs and a couple other titles are getting closer, but I'm just surprised it didn't happen like yesterday.
Also surprised to this day that Hot Coffee is like, the most notorious mod ever made.
Well said, jvm. One of the reasons this hobby is struggling against the validity that books and film enjoy is the finger-pointing ultra conservative types that want to use videogames as an example of how our society is falling apart at the seams. I'll be the first one to admit my mistake when the apocolypse is preceeded by the release of some harmless digitized boobs, but I'll wager it's not going to happen.
I'm not saying this game needs to be championed, but those that want to buy it shouldn't be crucified, either. There is a market for these games just as there is a market for millions of Playboy subscribers. The DOAX games are soft-core at most. Just another example of stuck up American thinking if you ask me (and yes, I'm American).